diff --git a/code/missionui/missionscreencommon.cpp b/code/missionui/missionscreencommon.cpp
index 07766876504..a9a9923293c 100644
--- a/code/missionui/missionscreencommon.cpp
+++ b/code/missionui/missionscreencommon.cpp
@@ -1552,15 +1552,14 @@ int restore_wss_data(ubyte *data)
 	return offset;
 }
 
-void draw_model_icon(int model_id, uint64_t flags, float closeup_zoom, int x, int y, int w, int h, ship_info *sip, int resize_mode, const vec3d *closeup_pos)
+void draw_model_icon(int model_id, uint64_t flags, int x, int y, int w, int h, ship_info* sip, weapon_info* wip, float zoom_multiplier, int resize_mode)
 {
 	lighting_profiles::set_non_mission_profile non_mission_lighting_profile;
 	
 	matrix	object_orient	= IDENTITY_MATRIX;
 	angles rot_angles = vmd_zero_angles;
-	float zoom = closeup_zoom * 2.5f;
 
-	if(sip == NULL)
+	if (sip == nullptr)
 	{
 		//Assume it's a weapon
 		rot_angles.h = -(PI_2);
@@ -1588,14 +1587,20 @@ void draw_model_icon(int model_id, uint64_t flags, float closeup_zoom, int x, in
 
 	gr_set_clip(x, y, w, h, resize_mode);
 	g3_start_frame(1);
-	if(sip != NULL)
+	if (sip != nullptr)
 	{
-		g3_set_view_matrix( &sip->closeup_pos, &vmd_identity_matrix, zoom);
+		const auto& closeup_pos = sip->icon_closeup_pos.value_or(sip->closeup_pos);
+		const auto closeup_zoom = sip->icon_closeup_zoom.value_or(sip->closeup_zoom);
+		const auto zoom = closeup_zoom * zoom_multiplier * 2.5f;
+
+		g3_set_view_matrix(&closeup_pos, &vmd_identity_matrix, zoom);
 
 		gr_set_proj_matrix(Proj_fov * 0.5f, gr_screen.clip_aspect, Min_draw_distance, Max_draw_distance);
 	}
 	else
 	{
+		Assertion(wip != nullptr, "Weapon is null, get a coder!");
+
 		polymodel *pm = model_get(model_id);
 		bsp_info *bs = NULL;	//tehe
 		for(int i = 0; i < pm->n_models; i++)
@@ -1612,24 +1617,23 @@ void draw_model_icon(int model_id, uint64_t flags, float closeup_zoom, int x, in
 			bs = &pm->submodel[0];
 		}
 
-		vec3d weap_closeup = *closeup_pos;
+		vec3d weap_closeup = wip->icon_closeup_pos.value_or(wip->closeup_pos);
 		float y_closeup;
-		float tm_zoom = closeup_zoom;
+		float tm_zoom = wip->icon_closeup_zoom.value_or(wip->closeup_zoom) * zoom_multiplier;
 
-		//Find the center of teh submodel
-		weap_closeup.xyz.x = -(bs->min.xyz.z + (bs->max.xyz.z - bs->min.xyz.z)/2.0f);
-		weap_closeup.xyz.y = -(bs->min.xyz.y + (bs->max.xyz.y - bs->min.xyz.y)/2.0f);
-		//weap_closeup.xyz.z = (weap_closeup.xyz.x/tanf(zoom / 2.0f));
-		weap_closeup.xyz.z = -(bs->rad/tanf(tm_zoom/2.0f));
+		if (!wip->icon_closeup_pos.has_value()) {
+			// Find the center of the submodel when no icon-specific position override is defined
+			weap_closeup.xyz.x = -(bs->min.xyz.z + (bs->max.xyz.z - bs->min.xyz.z) / 2.0f);
+			weap_closeup.xyz.y = -(bs->min.xyz.y + (bs->max.xyz.y - bs->min.xyz.y) / 2.0f);
+			weap_closeup.xyz.z = -(bs->rad / tanf(tm_zoom / 2.0f));
 
-		y_closeup = -(weap_closeup.xyz.y/tanf(tm_zoom / 2.0f));
-		if(y_closeup < weap_closeup.xyz.z)
-		{
-			weap_closeup.xyz.z = y_closeup;
-		}
-		if(bs->min.xyz.x < weap_closeup.xyz.z)
-		{
-			weap_closeup.xyz.z = bs->min.xyz.x;
+			y_closeup = -(weap_closeup.xyz.y / tanf(tm_zoom / 2.0f));
+			if (y_closeup < weap_closeup.xyz.z) {
+				weap_closeup.xyz.z = y_closeup;
+			}
+			if (bs->min.xyz.x < weap_closeup.xyz.z) {
+				weap_closeup.xyz.z = bs->min.xyz.x;
+			}
 		}
 		g3_set_view_matrix( &weap_closeup, &vmd_identity_matrix, tm_zoom);
 
diff --git a/code/missionui/missionscreencommon.h b/code/missionui/missionscreencommon.h
index 40029d28d20..cbc5312b790 100644
--- a/code/missionui/missionscreencommon.h
+++ b/code/missionui/missionscreencommon.h
@@ -234,7 +234,8 @@ int store_wss_data(ubyte *data, const unsigned int max_size, interface_snd_id so
 int restore_wss_data(ubyte *data);
 
 class ship_info;
-void draw_model_icon(int model_id, uint64_t flags, float closeup_zoom, int x1, int x2, int y1, int y2, ship_info* sip = NULL, int resize_mode = GR_RESIZE_FULL, const vec3d *closeup_pos = &vmd_zero_vector);
+struct weapon_info;
+void draw_model_icon(int model_id, uint64_t flags, int x1, int x2, int y1, int y2, ship_info* sip = nullptr, weapon_info* wip = nullptr, float zoom_multiplier = 1.0f, int resize_mode = GR_RESIZE_FULL);
 void draw_model_rotating(model_render_params *render_info, int ship_class, int model_id, int x1, int y1, int x2, int y2, float *rotation_buffer, const vec3d *closeup_pos=nullptr, float closeup_zoom = .65f, float rev_rate = REVOLUTION_RATE, uint64_t flags = MR_AUTOCENTER | MR_NO_FOGGING, int resize_mode=GR_RESIZE_FULL, select_effect_params effect_params = select_effect_params{});
 
 void common_set_team_pointers(int team);
diff --git a/code/missionui/missionshipchoice.cpp b/code/missionui/missionshipchoice.cpp
index 48b0b3ea9ea..b7051b043a7 100644
--- a/code/missionui/missionshipchoice.cpp
+++ b/code/missionui/missionshipchoice.cpp
@@ -1515,7 +1515,7 @@ void ship_select_do(float frametime)
 
 			if(Ss_icons[Carried_ss_icon.ship_class].model_index != -1)
 			{
-				draw_model_icon(Ss_icons[Carried_ss_icon.ship_class].model_index, MR_AUTOCENTER | MR_NO_FOGGING | MR_NO_LIGHTING, sip->closeup_zoom / 1.25f, sx, sy, w, h, sip, GR_RESIZE_MENU);
+				draw_model_icon(Ss_icons[Carried_ss_icon.ship_class].model_index, MR_AUTOCENTER | MR_NO_FOGGING | MR_NO_LIGHTING, sx, sy, w, h, sip, nullptr, 0.8f, GR_RESIZE_MENU);
 			}
 		}
 	}
@@ -1705,7 +1705,7 @@ void draw_ship_icon_with_number(int screen_offset, int ship_class)
 
 		if(ss_icon->model_index != -1)
 		{
-			draw_model_icon(ss_icon->model_index, MR_AUTOCENTER | MR_NO_FOGGING | MR_NO_LIGHTING, sip->closeup_zoom / 1.25f, Ship_list_coords[gr_screen.res][screen_offset][0],Ship_list_coords[gr_screen.res][screen_offset][1], 32, 28, sip, GR_RESIZE_MENU);
+			draw_model_icon(ss_icon->model_index, MR_AUTOCENTER | MR_NO_FOGGING | MR_NO_LIGHTING, Ship_list_coords[gr_screen.res][screen_offset][0],Ship_list_coords[gr_screen.res][screen_offset][1], 32, 28, sip, nullptr, 0.8f, GR_RESIZE_MENU);
 		}
 	}
 
@@ -2307,7 +2307,7 @@ void draw_wing_block(int wb_num, int hot_slot, int selected_slot, int class_sele
 			draw_brackets_square(&line_draw_list, Wing_icon_coords[gr_screen.res][slot_index][0], Wing_icon_coords[gr_screen.res][slot_index][1], Wing_icon_coords[gr_screen.res][slot_index][0] + 32, Wing_icon_coords[gr_screen.res][slot_index][1] + 28, GR_RESIZE_MENU);
 			line_draw_list.flush();
 
-			draw_model_icon(icon->model_index, MR_AUTOCENTER | MR_NO_FOGGING | MR_NO_LIGHTING, sip->closeup_zoom / 1.25f, Wing_icon_coords[gr_screen.res][slot_index][0], Wing_icon_coords[gr_screen.res][slot_index][1], 32, 28, sip, GR_RESIZE_MENU);
+			draw_model_icon(icon->model_index, MR_AUTOCENTER | MR_NO_FOGGING | MR_NO_LIGHTING, Wing_icon_coords[gr_screen.res][slot_index][0], Wing_icon_coords[gr_screen.res][slot_index][1], 32, 28, sip, nullptr, 0.8f, GR_RESIZE_MENU);
 		}
 	}
 }
@@ -2390,7 +2390,7 @@ void ss_blit_ship_icon(int x,int y,int ship_class,int bmap_num)
 				draw_brackets_square(&line_draw_list, x, y, x + 32, y + 28, GR_RESIZE_MENU);
 				line_draw_list.flush();
 
-				draw_model_icon(icon->model_index, MR_AUTOCENTER | MR_NO_FOGGING | MR_NO_LIGHTING, sip->closeup_zoom / 1.25f, x, y, 32, 28, sip, GR_RESIZE_MENU);
+				draw_model_icon(icon->model_index, MR_AUTOCENTER | MR_NO_FOGGING | MR_NO_LIGHTING, x, y, 32, 28, sip, nullptr, 0.8f, GR_RESIZE_MENU);
 			}
 		}
 	}
diff --git a/code/missionui/missionweaponchoice.cpp b/code/missionui/missionweaponchoice.cpp
index 151222c9306..49d762e935a 100644
--- a/code/missionui/missionweaponchoice.cpp
+++ b/code/missionui/missionweaponchoice.cpp
@@ -2909,7 +2909,7 @@ void weapon_select_do(float frametime)
 				if(icon->model_index != -1)
 				{
 					//Draw the model
-					draw_model_icon(icon->model_index, MR_NO_FOGGING | MR_NO_LIGHTING, wip->closeup_zoom / 2.5f, sx, sy, w, h, NULL, GR_RESIZE_MENU, &wip->closeup_pos);
+					draw_model_icon(icon->model_index, MR_NO_FOGGING | MR_NO_LIGHTING, sx, sy, w, h, nullptr, wip, 0.4f, GR_RESIZE_MENU);
 				}
 				else if(icon->laser_bmap != -1)
 				{
@@ -3141,7 +3141,7 @@ void wl_render_icon(int index, int x, int y, int num, int draw_num_flag, int hot
 		if(icon->model_index != -1)
 		{
 			//Draw the model
-			draw_model_icon(icon->model_index, MR_NO_FOGGING | MR_NO_LIGHTING, Weapon_info[index].closeup_zoom * 0.4f, x, y, 56, 24, NULL, GR_RESIZE_MENU);
+			draw_model_icon(icon->model_index, MR_NO_FOGGING | MR_NO_LIGHTING, x, y, 56, 24, nullptr, &Weapon_info[index], 0.4f, GR_RESIZE_MENU);
 		}
 		else if(icon->laser_bmap != -1)
 		{
diff --git a/code/ship/ship.cpp b/code/ship/ship.cpp
index a5eb8acb665..92061c3fb62 100644
--- a/code/ship/ship.cpp
+++ b/code/ship/ship.cpp
@@ -1243,6 +1243,8 @@ void ship_info::clone(const ship_info& other)
 
 	closeup_pos = other.closeup_pos;
 	closeup_zoom = other.closeup_zoom;
+	icon_closeup_pos = other.icon_closeup_pos;
+	icon_closeup_zoom = other.icon_closeup_zoom;
 
 	closeup_pos_targetbox = other.closeup_pos_targetbox;
 	closeup_zoom_targetbox = other.closeup_zoom_targetbox;
@@ -1595,6 +1597,8 @@ void ship_info::move(ship_info&& other)
 
 	std::swap(closeup_pos, other.closeup_pos);
 	closeup_zoom = other.closeup_zoom;
+	std::swap(icon_closeup_pos, other.icon_closeup_pos);
+	icon_closeup_zoom = other.icon_closeup_zoom;
 
 	std::swap(closeup_pos_targetbox, other.closeup_pos_targetbox);
 	closeup_zoom_targetbox = other.closeup_zoom_targetbox;
@@ -1984,6 +1988,8 @@ ship_info::ship_info()
 
 	vm_vec_zero(&closeup_pos);
 	closeup_zoom = 0.5f;
+	icon_closeup_pos = std::nullopt;
+	icon_closeup_zoom = std::nullopt;
 
 	vm_vec_zero(&closeup_pos_targetbox);
 	closeup_zoom_targetbox = 0.5f;
@@ -4773,6 +4779,24 @@ static void parse_ship_values(ship_info* sip, const bool is_template, const bool
 		}
 	}
 
+	if (optional_string("$Icon_closeup_pos:")) {
+		vec3d icon_pos;
+		stuff_vec3d(&icon_pos);
+		sip->icon_closeup_pos = icon_pos;
+	}
+
+	if (optional_string("$Icon_closeup_zoom:")) {
+		float icon_zoom;
+		stuff_float(&icon_zoom);
+
+		if (icon_zoom <= 0.0f) {
+			mprintf(("Warning!  Ship '%s' has a $Icon_closeup_zoom value that is less than or equal to 0 (%f). Ignoring value.\n", sip->name, icon_zoom));
+			sip->icon_closeup_zoom = std::nullopt;
+		} else {
+			sip->icon_closeup_zoom = icon_zoom;
+		}
+	}
+
 	if(optional_string("$Closeup_pos_targetbox:"))
 	{
 		stuff_vec3d(&sip->closeup_pos_targetbox);
diff --git a/code/ship/ship.h b/code/ship/ship.h
index fc25427a6bc..d656d936084 100644
--- a/code/ship/ship.h
+++ b/code/ship/ship.h
@@ -33,6 +33,7 @@
 
 #include <string>
 #include <set>
+#include <optional>
 #include <particle/ParticleManager.h>
 
 class object;
@@ -1346,6 +1347,8 @@ class ship_info
 
 	vec3d	closeup_pos;					// position for camera when using ship in closeup view (eg briefing and techroom)
 	float	closeup_zoom;					// zoom when using ship in closeup view (eg briefing and techroom)
+	std::optional<vec3d> icon_closeup_pos;	// icon-specific position for camera when using ship in closeup view
+	std::optional<float> icon_closeup_zoom;	// icon-specific zoom when using ship in closeup view
 
 	vec3d	closeup_pos_targetbox;			// position for camera when using ship in closeup view for hud target monitor
 	float	closeup_zoom_targetbox;			// zoom when using ship in closeup view for hud target monitor
diff --git a/code/weapon/weapon.h b/code/weapon/weapon.h
index 72a550cf3dd..c491d97f200 100644
--- a/code/weapon/weapon.h
+++ b/code/weapon/weapon.h
@@ -35,6 +35,8 @@
 
 #include "utils/modular_curves.h"
 
+#include <optional>
+
 class object;
 class ship_subsys;
 
@@ -386,6 +388,8 @@ struct weapon_info
 
 	vec3d	closeup_pos;						// position for camera to set an offset for viewing the weapon model
 	float	closeup_zoom;						// zoom when using weapon model in closeup view in loadout selection
+	std::optional<vec3d> icon_closeup_pos;		// icon-specific position for camera for viewing the weapon model
+	std::optional<float> icon_closeup_zoom;	// icon-specific zoom for viewing the weapon model
 
 	char hud_filename[MAX_FILENAME_LEN];			//Name of image to display on HUD in place of text
 	int hud_image_index;					//teh index of the image
diff --git a/code/weapon/weapons.cpp b/code/weapon/weapons.cpp
index 839bf7966d5..98040f7044d 100644
--- a/code/weapon/weapons.cpp
+++ b/code/weapon/weapons.cpp
@@ -985,6 +985,24 @@ int parse_weapon(int subtype, bool replace, const char *filename)
 		}
 	}
 
+	if (optional_string("+Icon_closeup_pos:")) {
+		vec3d icon_pos;
+		stuff_vec3d(&icon_pos);
+		wip->icon_closeup_pos = icon_pos;
+	}
+
+	if (optional_string("+Icon_closeup_zoom:")) {
+		float icon_zoom;
+		stuff_float(&icon_zoom);
+
+		if (icon_zoom <= 0.0f) {
+			mprintf(("Warning!  Weapon '%s' has a +Icon_closeup_zoom value that is less than or equal to 0 (%f). Ignoring value.\n", wip->name, icon_zoom));
+			wip->icon_closeup_zoom = std::nullopt;
+		} else {
+			wip->icon_closeup_zoom = icon_zoom;
+		}
+	}
+
 	// Weapon fadein effect, used when no ani is specified or weapon_select_3d is active
 	if (first_time) {
 		wip->selection_effect = Default_weapon_select_effect; // By default, use the FS2 effect
@@ -9396,6 +9414,8 @@ void weapon_info::reset()
 
 	vm_vec_zero(&this->closeup_pos);
 	this->closeup_zoom = 1.0f;
+	this->icon_closeup_pos = std::nullopt;
+	this->icon_closeup_zoom = std::nullopt;
 
 	memset(this->hud_filename, 0, sizeof(this->hud_filename));
 	this->hud_image_index = -1;